On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 13:10 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote: > To get my new F8 to run at all I used the Nvidia provided system > that worked fine. But then I decided to try the Fedora way. Now I can't > even get on F8 because the nvidia from Fedora finds the day-old driver > and instead of deleting it it errors out. Great design guys! --- Fedora doesn't provide nVidia. There is no Fedora way. If you plan to install from nVidia tarball, you rely upon nVidia to provide a suitable package. If you use freshrpm's packages, you must use freshrpm's prescribed manner/packages. If you use livna's packages, you must use livna's prescribed manner/packages. Regardless of whether you use nVidia's tarball, freshrpm's nVidia packages or Livna's nVidia's packages, Fedora has no involvement in your plight because their intent is to provide a sustainable Linux and you are stepping beyond the Fedora packaging. The fact remains, as so eloquently stated by Lamar, that Livna (and likewise, freshrpm's), provide nVidia packages that take the nVidia binary release and package it for easy and proper installation on Fedora. The fact that you cannot manage their packages is a problem that you should probably take up with the packagers. ---- > It appears I will have to 1. Remove the nvidia rpm I just spent > hours getting, or find out how I can manually remove the dam thing! ---- rpm -e PACKAGE_NAME or yum remove PACKAGE_NAME ---- > Modules used to live above /usr/lib/ but no more. ---- modules ALWAYS live in /lib/modules/$KERNEL ---- > I have not found them > even on F7. ---- same answer ---- > What am I missing? ---- I'll pass on the bait but thanks for the offer. Craig