On Friday 11 January 2008, Lamar Owen wrote: >On Thursday 10 January 2008, Gene Heskett wrote: >> Can you recall how you did it? smart-gui and yumex/rpm both refuse to do >> it here. > >Do you have yum-allowdowngrade installed? This adds a command-line option > to yum (appropriately enough called '--allow-downgrade' that will allow you > to downgrade packages with full dependency solving. >-- >Lamar Owen >www.pari.edu I do have that installed, Lamar, but I copied the filenames I wanted to downgrade for the two files in question, and all I got was the help screen from 'yum --allow-downgrade kdepim-3.5.8-4svn20071013.ent.fc8.i386 kdepim-libs-3.5.8-4svn20071013.ent.fc8.i386' yum didn't waste any time going out to the repos to see if they were available, and yumex won't show them to us, only smart-gui still shows them as available. I've made 4 or 5 passes at doing that with smart-gui, but each time it errors out with a message that those two exact packages are dependant on each other and it bails out. This whole kde-3.5.8-10 partial upgrade is a fscking disaster, many very important things are broken, like quite a few of kmails pulldown menu options, the docking tray, and I believe MIME in kmail for some attached items. I have had to manually edit those things I use all the time in the kmenu cuz the execute links were broken by the update. I could go, on, but I'm sure others can append to this list, at length. The most obvious thing to do would be to repackage those two -4svn offerings such that they would be downgraded by the next 'update'. Can this be done? If not, why not? Is it fedora's intention to keep us continually in a state of brokenness just to promote RHEL? Or is it to find and fix bugs for the next RHEL? I personally thought this was the plan, but after the last 2 years performance I am beginning to have doubts. If its the latter, then lets get to the fixing. Some of this, like the system tray has been broken 90% of the time since it all Just Worked(TM) when I installed FC6. Getting pi$$ed off thinking about it, I went and found where smart keeps its packages cache and made: [root@coyote packages]# rpm -Uvh --oldpackage kdepim-3.5.8-4.svn20071013.ent.fc8.i386.rpm kdepim-libs-3.5.8-4.svn20071013.ent.fc8.i386.rpm do it, hopefully once I restart x, things will be working again. If not, I tried. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Weiler's Law: Nothing is impossible for the man who doesn't have to do it himself.