Craig White wrote:
Like I said before, I haven't installed a fedora since FC6 - but until
recently I thought I was just waiting for the outside resources I need
to catch up. CentOS is fine, but unlike the commercial RHEL version
that actually solves the fedora-specific problem that spawned this whole
thread, CentOS does not supply a copy of Sun java.
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Not a fedora issue, but it was quite simple to install Sun's java on
CentOS-5
It's not impossible. But the whole repository of jpackage'd java
programs was available under centos-4, and isn't for centos-5.
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I give up
Does that mean you actually like a distribution that doesn't work out of
the box and is actively working to reduce it's cooperation with the
outside resources that supply the things it needs to work? I don't see
much choice but to change to Ubuntu or one of the others as soon as I
become paranoid about the end of security updates on my FC6 boxes.
There's just a lot of baggage related to installation and administration
tools that goes with a distribution switch and I hate to give up what
I've learned from experience back to RH4.x versions.
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since updates are indeed toast on FC6, I have to presume that what you
are referring to is probably K12LTSP (derived from FC6) and given the
current state of LTSP development, you are probably migrating to Ubuntu
anyway so I am sort of wondering if you aren't just putting out straw
man arguments here.
I don't really rely on ltsp, but now that you mention it, I have always
installed k12ltsp instead of stock fedora for its other usability
features. It is always a respin that includes the current updates at
the time of its release, and it includes push-button scripted installs
for an assortment of needed programs that the distribution omits (flash,
MS fonts, java, webmin, etc.).
If you aren't running F7 or F8, any point you might
have regarding usage of java (Sun or otherwise) on F7 or F8 is
irrelevant.
But that is the point of why I'm not running them.
Peter's assertion is surely clear enough, that Fedora does have
community participation and you can join the development group to help
guide the packaging, at least to become involved in the process but
clearly you want this ability without the commitment. Some people choose
to curse the darkness and some choose to light candles.
I'm not interested in helping a distribution become self-contained and a
limited subset of what it could be if it simply cooperated with
independent 3rd parties.
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Les Mikesell
lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx
