On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 12:45 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote: > Lamar Owen wrote: > > On Thursday 03 January 2008, Karl Larsen wrote: > > > >> Dennis your another person who says I know nothing about java. Your > >> full of self love Dennis. I know more from one day of study than you > >> will ever know. > >> > > > > Karl, you do realize that you just called a member of the Fedora Engineering > > Steering Committee stupid, right? See > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Development/SteeringCommittee > > > > He's the build and release engineer for the One Laptop Per Child (OLPC) > > project. > > > > He's a member of the Fedora Project Board for crying out loud! ( > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board ) > > > > He actually maintains some of the packages that you (and I) use. > > > > Even with your PhD in EE, when it comes to Fedora I know beyond a shadow of a > > doubt that Dennis, one of the many capable Fedora leaders, knows a great deal > > more about this subject than you. > > > > Up to this point, I've been leaning towards giving you the benefit of the > > doubt, but this takes the cake. Not again. > > > > By the way, the jedit installation FAQ explicitly says: "To run the installer, > > do whatever you normally do to run a Java jar archive. If this is your first > > time, follow these steps: > > > > 1. Open a terminal or command interpreter window. > > 2. Change the current directory to the directory in which you have > > stored the jEdit installer file. > > 3. Run this command: [full path to java application launcher] -jar > > jeditXXXinstall.jar" > > (FAQ found at http://www.jedit.org/FAQ/installation.html ) > > > > NOTE CAREFULLY STEP 3: you have to use the FULL PATH TO THE BINARY. So, > > instead of the command line you might think: > > /usr/bin/java -jar jedit4.3pre12install.jar (which will not work) > > > > with IcedTea, for instance, you run > > /usr/lib/jvm/jre-1.7.0-icedtea/bin/java -jar jedit4.3pre12install.jar > > > > And, guess what: it installs and runs just fine. I just installed it here, > > perfectly. It didn't work by not giving the full path to the java binary > > (why, I don't know, but it is something the jedit developers are aware of, > > since they specifically say to give the full path to the java binary). But I > > do know that I have a copy of jedit installed right now without a Sun java > > being installed. Would you like to see the screenshots? > > > > Incidentally, thanks for the pointer to jedit; looks like something I might > > use. > > > Something happened in my immediate family yesterday and let me say > it is not like me to pick on people like I did. But I was not in sound > mind yesterday. Today I say please forgive me Dennis what I said was > stupid and not correct. The only thing accurate is that what I learned > about java I feel strong about. This again is that with all the java > provided in a Work Station load of F8, which I since learned is not very > much capability, I had no successful install of jedit. It is nice that > others have had success. I can't explain that. Ah, there's the nub. *Let them explain it*. Sometimes surrender comes hard, but it is useful at times to just say give it to me between the eyes. Everyone will come to your aid. Ric -- ================================================ My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar http://www.wayward4now.net <---down4now too ================================================