On Thursday 03 January 2008 22:24, Andrew Overholt wrote: > I've tried to help folks out on getting websites that require Java to work. > > > Pre F8 there is no chance without Sun's JRE. On F8 the icedtea browser > > plugin partially works. I say this because if you look at the link below, > > the jigsaw applets won't load. If you go to the bottom of the page, click > > on Site Map, then under the "Help Pages" Troubleshooting, then someway > > down the troubleshooting page, click on "bubble simulation". The bubble > > simulation runs, but each bubble is followed by thick black lines, so > > something is not working as it should. With Sun's JRE installed, and > > making sure to remove the icedtea browser plugin (as it still shows up in > > Firefox's about:plugins, and wants to take precedence in trying to load > > applets from websites (much as Totem tries to do with trying to play > > stuff that it can't play)) the bubble simulation now works as expected, > > and the jigsaw applets load ok. Please file bugs like this so that the IcedTea people can see them. Andrew See bugreport below. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=427452 Personally I don't see any fixes arriving soon, but you never know. Nigel.