Re: [Fedora] Seeing input on Securing the Linux system from intrusions and attacks.

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Craig White wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-12-30 at 17:53 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> Tim wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2007-12-30 at 08:03 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>>> It was more than a year ago when I attempted to install a Windows 2000
>>>> system directly connected to the internet.  In fact, before the system
>>>> was fully updated with security patches it had been compromised.  I
>>>> didn't time it, but it certainly was less than 30 minutes. 
>>> That happened to a friend of mine.  It was something like four seconds
>>> after connecting to his ISP he got infected, despite my warnings about
>>> putting a firewall on first.  He didn't think he'd need it, he had
>>> anti-virus software installed, and thought nothing could happen that
>>> quickly, despite my assurances to the contrary.
>>>
>>> To make matters worse, he couldn't remove the infection - his anti-virus
>>> software didn't stop the infection, and wouldn't remove it.  So he
>>> reformatted and re-installed.  An hour or so later he reconnected, and
>>> got infected just the same way, and in just a few seconds, and couldn't
>>> undo the damage (the virus was better at protecting itself than Windows
>>> was).  I nearly fell off the chair laughing at him.
>> As a side note, the damage was irreversible here as well.  Reformat,
>> reinstall.  Interesting exercise nonetheless.  I'm not sure why anyone sane
>> person would have done it a second time.  :-)
> ----
> Actually, anyone who has set up Windows 2003 Server in the last year has
> noticed that this shouldn't happen anymore because the firewall is
> automatic during initial setup phase and user is clearly aware that
> during initial setup phase, this firewall remains until updates are all
> installed or the user opts out. Let's give Microsoft a little credit
> (not much, but a little).

Just to reiterate, my experience was with Win2K.


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