-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Les Mikesell wrote: > Real _what_? If you execute java in fedora, you'll get something that > is not java and won't successfully execute many java programs. So use something else. You do know how to add and remove rpm packages right? ;-) Ah come on Les. You know why they don't include Sun's Java. For pretty much the same reason they don't include your beloved codecs. Non FOSS. And what specific Fedora provided java application does not work? And I will say this. The Icedtea has improved a lot. But as long as people *immediately* bailout things are not going to improve. Did you report (bugzilla) this tragic event you had? If you did not just how do you expect anyone to fix it? - -- David -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAkd2rHkACgkQAO0wNI1X4QGxSgCgrACDRUVvYMRe4f39UPWI1zXL kbcAn2kkyJ74qSD9lNuQOQzbO4fYojiq =Itt9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----