-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Karl Larsen wrote: > Craig White wrote: > It is interesting the hoops technical people jump through for > Political reasons. Java exists on a web page somewhere and it is > operating system independent. It is free to all users. > > But the users need to know how to get it and mount it. If Fedora is > not going to use the real java in their distribution it is another > reason other versions of Linux are slowly being used by the public (I > have not seen any yet in my Wal-Mart). > > In competition with Windows you do things that are not good from the > free software point of view. In my opinion we should change the > definition of free to include software available free but without source > code. In this group comes the driver for Nvidia hardware. I think what's > happening is a Political fix where someone is using the Nvidia software > which is NOT with a source code, and when a new kernel is ready they run > the Nvidia software and make the kernel driver(s), which are then put in > a rpm file and sent to users as a Update. It looks good but is it really > good? I just have to ask you Karl. What OS or Linux distribution natively includes Sun Java? What OS or Linux distribution natively includes the Nvidia drivers that you install? - -- David -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAkd2V7QACgkQAO0wNI1X4QHg0wCgkR/e3siowxSS9i0udIyjT8Wo tacAoPhNC048+Au1/egN09lXE9zZ7nKa =YHBi -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----