On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 19:10:45 +0000, Beartooth Sciurivore wrote: > On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 09:27:49 +0100, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > >> Guys, yum install jigdo does it... > > Great! Many thanks. [...] > >> And yes, F8 Re-Spins do upgrades. > > Oh, good, oh good, oh good : I very much prefer that for this > machine. > > Many many thanks! For the record, I did one of sorts at last. After long grief, and with much help both here and from RDay's Fedora Cookbook jigdo page, I got a .iso -- which K3B seemed to do better at burning than Brasero, especially with poor man's double-DVD-Rs. I put one into an F8 laptop, which hadn't been updated for a couple days. It booted, passed the media test in Anaconda (as it had K3B's), ran anaconda, and claimed to install two things -- a new version of anaconda itself, and something that went by faster than I could see. After the obligatory reboot, I did "yum clean all," "rpm -- rebuilddb" (on general principles), and "yum update" -- which got nothing more. But the machine and its F8 were both fine, before, during, and after -- no error messages, and everything still works. -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Fedora 8; Alpine 0.99999, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6; Dillo 0.8.6, Galeon 2.0.3, Epiphany 2.20, Opera 9.25, Firefox 2.0 Remember I know little (precious little!) of what I am talking about.