On Tuesday 25 December 2007, Tim wrote: >On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 11:33 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: >> It never was much of a tv card, veddy veddy poor pix even with 60k >> microvolts at its input. > >What did you do, hang it off the tower? ;-) Close enough Tim, I'm only about 2 air miles away from 100k erp on ch5, but that was in fact the signal levels I measured at the card input from a dish receiver about 8 feet of cable away. And it was still snowy on the hauppauge card. Bin time, it also picked up all sorts of digital noises in the computer, doing that directly from the first install gitgo. My pcHDTV-3000 card is 100x the card the hauppauge ever was, the only obvious fly in the cream is that due to the much more selective filtering of the digital cards if stages, the NTSC analogue performance suffers from a very noticeable group delay that the same signal on ch6, our digital channel doesn't suffer from. Most cable systems are as bad, so its a shrug. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Are you tired of being a crash test dummy for Microsoft? Discover Linux. -- Gareth Barnard