On Dec 8, 2007 3:37 PM, david walcroft <d_j_w46@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > david walcroft wrote: > > Todd Zullinger wrote: > >> david walcroft wrote: > >> > >>> No I do not have rpm -V hal hal-libs and no messages in the in the > >>> log. > >>> > >> > >> David, the rpm -V command above doesn't install anything and will only > >> report on problems found. If it ran without any output, it means that > >> you have hal and hal-libs installed and that all the files from those > >> package match what was originally installed. (See man rpm for more > >> details on verifying packages.) > >> > >> I would look for error messages in /var/log/messages to see why > >> you seem to be getting errors starting the haldaemon service. You > >> could open to terminals and run "tailf /var/log/messages" to watch the > >> messages logfile in real time. Hit return a few times to add some > >> blank space. This makes it easy to see new lines. > >> > >> In another terminal, run "service haldaemon restart" and watch for any > >> errors or warnings in the first terminal. > >> > >> > > Pardon my ignorance but what are my options. > > > > rpm {-V|--verify} [select-options] [verify-options] > > > > david > > > > > OK I found some more reading and found "rpm -vv" > There was nothing about 'hal' > > > david > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Hi david walcroft! What Todd Zullinger suggested using "tailf" is very cool. Thank you Todd for helping Tod with his ability to troubleshoot Linux! Looking at the thread I believe we know: 1. Hal IS on your system. 2. Hal has trouble stopping and starting. FWIW - most of the following suggestions come from a Google search on "Starting HAL daemon: [FAILED]". First, lets see if we have any of hal running. Running "aux | grep hal" as ROOT on my system yields the following: [root@localhost tod]# ps aux | grep hal 68 2022 0.0 0.5 4920 2904 ? Ss 15:48 0:01 hald root 2023 0.0 0.1 3084 932 ? S 15:48 0:00 hald-runner 68 2034 0.0 0.1 2072 792 ? S 15:48 0:00 hald-addon-keyboard: listening on /dev/input/event1 68 2035 0.0 0.1 2072 792 ? S 15:48 0:00 hald-addon-keyboard: listening on /dev/input/event4 68 2038 0.0 0.1 2072 788 ? S 15:48 0:00 hald-addon-keyboard: listening on /dev/input/event5 68 2040 0.0 0.1 2072 788 ? S 15:48 0:00 hald-addon-keyboard: listening on /dev/input/event6 68 2041 0.0 0.1 2072 792 ? S 15:48 0:00 hald-addon-keyboard: listening on /dev/input/event7 root 2071 0.0 0.1 3148 972 ? S 15:48 0:00 /usr/libexec/hald-addon-cpufreq 68 2072 0.0 0.1 2072 788 ? S 15:48 0:00 hald-addon-acpi: listening on acpi kernel interface /proc/acpi/event root 2086 0.0 0.1 3136 872 ? S 15:48 0:02 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/sr0 (every 2 sec) root 21780 0.0 0.1 4008 716 pts/3 S+ 17:34 0:00 grep hal Next, set SELinux to "Permissive" and try restarting hal. On my system with SELinux "Enforceing" I get: [root@localhost tod]# /sbin/service haldaemon restart Stopping HAL daemon: [ OK ] Starting HAL daemon: [ OK ] If that yeilds good results go back into "System > Administration > SELinux Management" and when the "SELinux Administration" window comes up set it back to "Enforceing" and also hit the "Relable on next reboot" check box. Reboot and repeat the test as shown above. Beyond that I would make a directory in my "/home/me/Documents" called "hal" and copy to it /var/log/"messages", "dmesg", and "secure" to the new directory - change the permissions and ownership of the copied files to be used my you as the normal user, and then use your favorite word processor to browse them and do searches on "hal" within them. Good Hunting! Tod