> > >> I don't like to feel that Linux is not telling me something > > >> because it doesn't think it is good for me. > > > > > > What, like hidden files? > > > > You mean, files whose names start with "."? > > I must say, that is not one of my favourite aspects of Unix. > > I was trying to think if it was always like that? > > (I go back to Unix edition 5.) dig out that AT&T Journal in which the design/implementation is describe, IIRC dot ('.') files are not displayed by, among others, ls to save time. The console of the first UNIX systems were hard copy TTYs at, what, 50 CPS. That sort of economy extends to today for me. If I need to see a application's configuration files I know how to access them. BFD!!!! Oh BTW, I have quit using vipw and friends in favor of plain vi, vim or emacs. OK I started administration of *NIX systems before vipr was developed or I heard about it. Oh and I started with *NIXes with 4.1a BSD. Cheers, dlg <snip>