My lappy finally got around to actually installing the updates to make it a fedora 8 install. Imagine my surprise when I saw the message go by that the cups server couldn't be restarted because /etc/cups/cupsd.conf wasn't readable. It all worked for F7. Just another of those things that make you go Hummm. Is this a usual occurence(sp)? -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) A fanatic is a person who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. - Winston Churchill