On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 06:34 -0800, Paul Shaffer wrote: > I know. It was not nice on purpose. because I believe some people > around here are not nice in the way they respond to very simple > inquiries. OK Ric, I'll play along with you too, just for grins 'n > giggles. Give us an example of how you would NOT use iptables to > share an Internet connection "using Fedora OS." That's easy, the same way I ran an 8 line BBS using a Dickens Terminal server. I assigned local IP addresses to the 8 modems and 8 terminals we also had and gave them all names in hosts. They all pointed to my server, with a static IP address to the net as their telnet gateway automatically. Everything worked just fine, in text mode. The users could telnet and FTP to their heart's content. 14.4 was considered high speed and 28.8 externals were over $200 apiece. We ran a MUD and gave everyone command line access for free. It only blew up a couple of times. I learned to keep good backups. :) In that fashion, setting it up was a breeze. I've set up small home networks in the same fashion using a hub. Gonna do that again this weekend. Of course, nowadays it does pay some to heed security issues. Out here in the toolies using a modem, all I have to do is watch the modem lights for suspicious activity. In Greensboro, when I had a nice fat Business DSL connection, I had a router connected to the DSL modem and just about anyone could bring their laptop over, plug in along side mine and hit the net without touching my machine. How the OP was connected and with what was not mentioned. It could have been just that simple. Just plug 'em in. > You may wish to re-read the OP's question. It was extremely simple > and straightforward. There are many very talented highly qualified > people on this list who sometimes get hamstrung by those very > attributes when they read too much into a simple question. And > sometimes in Bill's case for example, I also believe they do it on > purpose to belittle the poster or puff their own chest. That's not > nice either, IMHO. That's all. I read what the OP wrote, no prob. He just didn't mention anything regarding his hardware, just that he wanted to share the internet among his various computers. I would hazard a guess that a router or a hub would come in handy first. No mention. Plus the cables to connect them. I had no clue what he had, from what he wrote. No mention of interface to the web or among the machines and if any of it worked at all. Suppose he didn't know to configure his ethernet cards? Maybe he has a Linux server and Windows client machines? We don't know from the little info given. That's the beef and I've posted forgetting to include the juicy bits, and got called on it, as I should have been. He got called on it too. Bill didn't "label" the OP as stupid or idiotic. But you did label Bill. That's where some panties got caught up in a snit. You could have called him on being less than thoughtful without the name-calling. I think you'll agree that would have been more appropriate. To my thinking, before you do the iptables bit, it would be handy to set up either ip addresses to be addressed or DHCP or something just to establish the connections among his machines and have them just ping to each other for starts. Check out my linux user number, I've been at this awhile. I've Founded and Co-Founded 4 computer clubs in my life. I've done technical support in the Chemical Industry for 25 years. Since I've dealt with non-technical folks in a technical niche, I've had to dumb it down alot! But, I've had to educate my clients as well, so we have a common mode of comprehension level when discussing their problems. I made pretty good coin at it, you just have to love your customers and have expectations of them as well. The OP did not convey his true situation to a group list that isn't being paid to be as patient. A seal barks for fish in the circus. So, it's also incumbent for the question "asker" to provide enough information so that we seals can bark on cue. :) So long, and thanks for all the fish, Ric -- ================================================ My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar http://www.wayward4now.net <---down4now too ================================================
