Re: Can Java just shoot me?

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Knute Johnson wrote:
David Boles wrote:
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Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Tue, 2007-11-20 at 22:14 -0500, David Boles wrote:
Tom Horsley wrote:
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:52:20 -0500
David Boles <dgboles@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Duh? This took about 10 seconds.

Start here. Follow the prompts. Either one goes to the same page.

http://tinyurl.com/29ktre
https://sdlc4e.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet;jsessionid=60B8217CD6937C7D378EAE0D0B30D57A
Yea, it takes about 10 seconds starting from that page, but how
do you know how to find that page starting from java.sun.com?
There are 15,000 potential paths to follow with no roadsigns :-).
For that matter, how do I know I need a jre rather than a jdk
(I've seen both tossed around on web pages about installing
java).
Okay. Here ya go.

You time *yourself*.

Start here:

http://www.sun.com/

Look for 'Downloads' in the menu in the top of the menu. Hightlight
(mouse over)

Look at the drop down window and 'see Java JE' (that is what you are
looking for right?) click

One has to be careful when you are implying that someone is saying
something less than bright, There is no Java JE under the Download menu.
It says Java SE. Which is ok, you are allowed to make a typo but one has
to be more careful in this context.
See "Java Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 Update 3" (means JRE version 6
update 3) Click)

The Java SE Runtime Environment (JRE) allows end-users to run Java
applications"  (that is what you want?) click on download

TaDa  The link I gave you first.

How long?

No one minds helping. But it helps you if you *try* before you *fail*
and ask for help.
The JE was a typo on my account. SE stands for Standard Edition. What he
is looking for is the Java Runtime Environment (JRE). Which is on the
page that links from the menu. It was obvious that he had no clue about
what he was doing  (later self confirmed) and that he did not want to do
this (later self confirmed). It was the attitude that got me. The 'I
can't do this. It's too hard. So it must be *their* fault' that got to
me. I deal with people like that sometimes at work. Second time I fire them.

Now reread the last sentence. It starts with "No one minds...
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  David

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I had no problem finding the PAGE with the things to d/l. The problem is getting the dam stuff to WORK!! I followed the Install guidance which is hard to read, but I made the directory /usr/java/ which does not exist on F7, and I did the bash file from that directory which put another directory above /usr/java/jre1... which seems to have all the java stuff.

But Firefox can't find this even though it says it will check /usr/java/. Should I move everything from that jre1... directory to /usr/java/?

If you use the JPackage RPM for the Java version you are installing it solves a lot of these problems for you. And the best part is you can use the RPM version. Also remember that the plugin won't work without compat-libstdc++-33.

I just used the rpm made by me using the rpm.bin file first. It did this:

[root@localhost java]# ls
default  jre1.6.0_03  latest
[root@localhost java]#

The files are all in /usr/java/ like Firefox seems to want?



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