Well, I downloaded the F8 live cd, and burned it to a cd,everything went fine until it got to my video controller, and then f8 said it couldn't recognize my video controller. Funny, F7 had no problems with it. I don't know about anyone else on this list, but I've been seeing this same sort of problem on other machines running other distros. Ubuntu 7.10 doesn't like the video controller, and 7.04 didn't like the ethernet or wireless card. Mandriva 2008 also doesn't like the video card. What I don't understand is, if you supported a piece of hardware in one version, why don't you support it in your new version. I could understand it if I was running old hardware, but it's all only about 2 or 3 years old. I guess for now I'll keep running F7 on that machine, until I get a new video card for it,the other machines, I've changed distros on them. So far, the only distro that I haven't had this problem with yet(knock on wood) is Cent OS, but who knows, that may change with version 6. Jim