You mean well Karl. Nobody will deny you that. And you do bring lively debate to the list and sometimes force some of us who assume greater depth of knowledge on a topic to do a bit more digging and ultimately deepen our knowledge yet more. Unfortunately it comes at a price most times. I believe you could foster that same lively debate without the friction if you changed how you framed your postings where appropriate (i.e. "This is my personal experience with"..., or "From what I understand"..., or "Here is my attempt at a guide. Understand I am not an expert on the topic but do have a reasonable degree of knowledge. If you find any errors or omissions please bring them to my attention.") and then solicit feedback to identify possible errors/omissions. I'm not suggesting every posting requires such framing. But it's not uncommon to see someone add AFAIK (As Far As I Know), or as I sometimes write "I stand to be corrected" if they don't possess sufficient knowledge or experience (or haven't researched the topic sufficiently) to not throw up that caution flag or that safety net if you wish. And if someone does post a possible correction to a posting don't take offense to it. Either dig deeper, or ask the person for a source to support their point, or some other such method that is non-confrontational and allows you to follow up on it and if appropriate change your position if you realize that the other person was correct (yet does not commit you to change in the event you conclude that you are correct). I can already see other points that will bring debate in your latest posting if others choose to dissect it. Where you started your posting by stating you are not an expert in grub at least if someone comes across it in the archives when researching a problem they can take it in that context. Based on that I won't engage you in any further debate on your efforts to produce your version of a grub reference guide. I still maintain it does not belong on a list for the reasons I've already mentioned in this thread (as have others). But clearly we differ on that opinion and freedom to do as you choose is in your favour. Jacques B.