> Well fair enough, but whatever it is doing in response to that can be > fixed one way or another, and the rest of the functionality I described > will still be beautiful. It's presumably not an architectural flaw? I don't consider it one, more an unconsidered act of brute violence. I'm no fan of the current Network Manager but I really can see the day coming when the thing does what it actually needs to do, and at that point it will really improve the 'end user experience' Alan