On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 16:26 +0000, Beartooth wrote: > Picked out of the getting rid of SELinux thread on this list, > originated by me, and now made a thread of its own, also by me -- > because, while still as interesting as ever, especially to me, it has > broadened enough that people seeking help specifically with SELinux would > be apt to overlook it. (Or at least I would.) > > On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:44:37 +0100, Andy Green wrote: > [....] > I strongly believe > > that you can't inherently trust machines on any internal network any > > more than those outside. There was an interesting thread about this on > > Full Disclosure the other week with some guy going on about how he would > > heroically jump in the way of any foreign "cyber attack" from boxes in > > $COUNTRY and lend his powers to repelling it, etc. A guy replied > > shortly pointing out that the attack comes from the machine next to you, > > not some easily identified foreign box. And that is exactly what we see > > with worms and viruses. > [....] > Since the context (I think) involves LANs and suchlike things, > you must mean "physically next," not just electronically via the Net, > right? > > Iow, if I run some app that discovers malware on linux boxes, and > find some on one of the machines on my desk, it will more likely have > come from one of my others that off the Net or the Web, right? > > But surely that machine here, or some machine here, got it in the > first place electronically? > > I seem to be getting more confused than usual here .... But at least you're hanging in there. You go Beartooth. Light dispels the Darkness. Getting every ones perceptions is never a bad thing. Ric -- ================================================ My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar http://www.wayward4now.net <---down4now too ================================================