On 9/21/07, Ralf Corsepius <rc040203@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I remember back in the days when a firewall used to get very similar > > complaints and everyone was suggesting just to turn it off instead > > SELinux is a fundamental security paradigm change. It has taken a lot of > > effort to get where we are now. > Only if you consider it to be progress and a sustainable solution. So > far this is not clear yet. History will judge if it really is or not. > > Remember iptables and friends. They had to go through several iterations > until they had reached a point most people found them to be in an > acceptable and usable shape. Still you will find many people who switch > firewalls off, on certain situations (I do so on my home network's > clients. My server has them turned on). This seems like an argument for RFCs and RFEs and bug reports, and constructive discussions, but blunt subjective bashing -- Fedora 7 : sipping some of that moonshine ( www.pembo13.com )