On 9/21/07, Res <res@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, 21 Sep 2007, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > > > Selinux is another layer of security, it isn't a replacement of any > > security layers, I see no reason why anyone feels such apparently > > hostility to this piece of technology. > > and its a PITA, stopping many things working, we dont have time to sit in > front of a newly built server and spend an hour telling the thing its > "safe" blah blah blah, its one of the reasons the fedora desktops on > internal lan in still FC1 because its stable, although, by default we dont > use half of RH's installed stuff on the desktops, we use the real > sendmails, real firefox's real openoffices, real evolutions, real kernels > , real mplayer and other multimedia stuff that plays the formats WE want > not what RH decides we should use, and so on and so on. > > its simple, if the user doesnt want to use it, they should not have to > install or deconfigure it. That comment doesn't seem to have been written with the intention of attracting constructive responses. I fear sysadmins who are always quick to say that they don't have time. -- Fedora 7 : sipping some of that moonshine ( www.pembo13.com )