Res wrote: > On Fri, 21 Sep 2007, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > >> Selinux is another layer of security, it isn't a replacement of any >> security layers, I see no reason why anyone feels such apparently >> hostility to this piece of technology. > > and its a PITA, stopping many things working, we dont have time to sit > in front of a newly built server and spend an hour telling the thing its > "safe" blah blah blah, its one of the reasons the fedora desktops on > internal lan in still FC1 because its stable, although, by default we > dont use half of RH's installed stuff on the desktops, we use the real > sendmails, real firefox's real openoffices, real evolutions, real > kernels , real mplayer and other multimedia stuff that plays the formats > WE want not what RH decides we should use, and so on and so on. I think you may be forgetting the reason why Fedora and/or Red Hat doesn't supply support for certain formats. But I think you know that it isn't because it is something RH has decided. Probably shouldn't be spreading FUD on Friday evenings. Also, I pity that folks at your BBQ discuss software. > > its simple, if the user doesnt want to use it, they should not have to > install or deconfigure it. > -- "In the face of entropy and nothingness, you kind of have to pretend it's not there if you want to keep writing good code." -- Karl Lehenbauer