On Sat, 2007-09-08 at 17:13 +0100, Chris Jones wrote: > > Are you sure you're in the right place? > > Why on Earth wouldn't he be. > > Please correct me, but I wasn't aware that only linux zealots where allowed to > post to this list. I thought (and hope) its open to all opinions on Fedora, > (or linux in general in fact) good or bad. It's only in conflict that new ideas arrive to challenge the old. Otherwise we'd all be computers instead of humans. I agree that it would be "better" for Fedora to stabilize, but it's not the nature of the beast to do so. Seems like yesterday I just installed Fedora 7 and 8 is already in testing <shudders>. Heck, I haven't applied all the updates for 7 yet. It does get old, but that is Fedora. I just do wish the pace would slow down some and get more applications (especially video and audio) nailed down to polish the distro for USERS to use. I would have rather seen FC7 not require 200+ updates, for instance. So, I hope that FC8 is allowed time to "soak" before it's released. Until I can get a satellite service I'm stuck at 28.8 and the bandwidth requirement to re-install is a killer for me and a pile of others not able to get broadband. So, I feel Les's comments about Windows and Macs reflects the problem of haste makes a pot full of waste, especially for bandwidth challenged users (like me) and those that use their machines for more than a test platform (like me). Ric -- ================================================ My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar http://www.wayward4now.net <---down4now too ================================================