jack craig wrote: > i want these files created with 666 just for the devil of it... ;-) A better approach is to give access to a group, then add yourself to the group. For example, I use the following code in a udev file (/etc/udev/rules.d/60-cell.rules): SUBSYSTEM!="usb_device", ACTION!="add", GOTO="cell_rules_end" # LG Phone SYSFS{idVendor}=="1004", SYSFS{idProduct}=="6000", GROUP="cellusers", MODE="0660" LABEL="cell_rules_end" Of course, you'll need to find the idVendor and idProduct or other identifying characteristics of the device (and change the names to make them more appropriate). Then, add yourself to the cell (or whatever) group. Matt Flaschen