On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 20:10 +0100, Paul Smith wrote: > On 8/6/07, Paul Johnson <pauljohn32@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > I have now installed Fedora (including fc7) on a number of different > > > machines and they all work just fine : they install easily, find > > > everything and run first time no problems. > > > > > > Maybe there is something you are doing incorrectly during the install > > > process : it is easy to overlook something if you speed through the > > > install too quickly. > > > > > > Also, are installing or updating? If one is updating (from, say, FC6 to > > > fc7) then it usually (in my experience) doesn't work and I have found > > > that it's best to do a complete install with every new version of > > > Fedora. > > > > > > I can't agree with the reply that there's a problem with Fedora maturity > > > (or maturity in any other distro if it comes to that). Each distro has > > > its own quirks and and characteristics, but I have found that "maturity" > > > has nothing to do with it. Each new version of a distro addresses > > > outstanding matters such as small bugs, new devices, new protocols, > > > updated applications and so on and, despite its stability, even Linux > > > will be prone to small bugs being introduced whenever there is an update > > > to the kernel or an application. But nothing like the problems one > > > experiences with Windoze. > > > > > > Maybe the machine on which you are trying to install fc7 has some > > > characteristic that Linux doesn't like or can't cope with : I understand > > > that laptops in general seem to be Linux UNfiendly but, with my IBM R31, > > > I've had no troubles with any distro I've tried installing on it > > > (perhaps because it is old now?). > > > CroombeFP > > > > > > > > > > I'm sympathetic to the original poster on this thread. I've been > > running Linux since Redhat 4.1, a long time. If F7 had been the first > > Linux for me, I am pretty sure I would have quit. > > > > On a Dell Inspiron laptop, I've had nothing but trouble with the > > kernel and udev. Suspend/Hibernate did not work, original kernel and > > update have had serious problems to work on, usb sticks did not mount > > automatically, the wireless network (iwl3945) has been a disaster, and > > Gnome seems to get worse and worse. > > > > I would think this is the normal state of Linux, I suppose, except > > that last month I bought a Nokia N800 internet tablet that runs on a > > small version of Debian linux. Guess what? Everywhere I go, the > > wireless connects effortlessly. > > > > F7 is the first fedora that made me feel like a beta tester (or alpha > > tester) for RedHat enterprise linux. Simply too many fundamentals > > have not worked well and require hours of study and work. And the > > various "help" pages, such as the pm-suspend quirks page, are simply > > unhelpful. > > I agree entirely with Paul. If I were not a Fedora user since F4, I > would have already quit. In fact, in my case, I would not have been > able to install F7, as F7 installation disk does not simply install > anything here. I imagine that new users that, like me, cannot install > F7 will abandon Fedora immediately. > > Paul > That's funny. The F7 DVD installed something for me. What are you referring to? -- ======================================================================= The most important early product on the way to developing a good product is an imperfect version. ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
