--- Charles Curley <charlescurley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 11:05:31AM -0700, Globe Trotter wrote: > > > > > > > True. I myself use fvwm2. But twm, and fvwm2 are not DEs. They are > > WMs. > > What is the difference between a desktop and a window manager, anyway? A WM gets you by. A DE can even help you brush your teeth:-) I am not a great fan of DEs and don't use one, but a lightweight DE will enable more of the masses to use F than W. > > > I was thinking something in the light of fluxbox or xfce would be > > apprpriate. The real trouble under the current setup is the plethora > > of things that appear and get working even if you choose not to use > > gnome (using fvwm instead). > > That is a problem with Fedora (and possibly other Linux disties): too > much cruft. E.g: You need a minimum of 256 MB to install Fedora; less > than that and yum looses its marbles. I just installed xubuntu on a > box with 67 MB using the alternate (debian) installer. This is exactly my view also. Note the difference between xubuntu and its bloated counterpart. Bloat is the antithesis of the linux/oss environment and reminds me of the infamous quote of one moneyed evangelical: people will not care about bloat because they will be ready to buy newer hardware. Remember 1995 in a different context? Trotter > -- > > Charles Curley /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign > Looking for fine software \ / Respect for open standards > and/or writing? X No HTML/RTF in email > http://www.charlescurley.com / \ No M$ Word docs in email > > Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/