Somebody in the thread at some point said: > uneventful defaults install, nvidia 5200 card was auto-recognized, > installed, recognized my Sun/Sony 21" monitor, OK > nothing of note in logs, but starting ff2.0.0.5 causes gnome to > crash, it restarts, shows me a bugzilla report, I send. I don't > think it's crashing X because it drops back to graphical logon > screen, looks just like the one after boot. That is what killing X looks like, a new X server is started automatically and it wants you to log in. >>From time to time it works, like now. > > googled around some, went thru 30 pages of topics on this forum, not > finding much. > > Also, the back and forward buttons won't work on my mouse, 2 > different mice, both logitec, 1 ps2, 1 usb. > > Do I need to install the (gasp) proprietary Nvidia driver? I > normally don't do closed stuff at all, but this is approaching > unusability. > > TIA for any ideas, scornful comments, cheap shots, etc. Next time it blows chunks on you, have a look at less /var/lox/Xorg.0.log towards the end and see if there is any (EE) type stuff or backtrace. Also, what driver did it put in /etc/X11/xorg.conf? If it was the nouveau one, try swapping it for the nv one. -Andy