On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:38:53 +0200 Patrick <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Michel, > > On Sat, 2007-07-28 at 14:30 +0200, Michel Van den Bergh wrote: > > Hi, > > [snip] > > What is it with Fedora (or Linux?) that causes major things to > > break with every os upgrade? > > Dunno but with the fast & furious pace of kernel development > regressions are almost inevitable. That's ok as long as they get > fixed at the same pace. > This sort of thing, where something that has worked forever suddenly breaks indicates a failure of process. That is institutional knowledge that has been forgotten. Suddenly the wheel has to be reinvented. The fast and furious pace becomes busy work because it isn't really going anywhere. Each new 'fix' creates a new fire to fight. Again, this is a breakdown of process. Perhaps the kernel has grown beyond the point where people can keep it all in their head. Maybe it is time for -gasp!- managers. That after all is the role of management - going meta to a process to be sure that it works properly, and to optimize it. And, horror of horror, meetings among stakeholders to ensure that everyone is on the same page and marching in the same direction. More formality, more bureaucracy. Ugh! This didn't seem to be as large a problem when there was a development branch and a stable branch. Perhaps that is just coincidence though. And yes, we all expect regressions, just not in major components. It might not even need more resources than are currently available, just the application of those resources in a more efficacious manner. And maybe there is nothing wrong at all and this is just noise. :-)