On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 18:32 -0700, Lonni J Friedman wrote: > Which is the point that I made the last time this came up a few weeks > ago. OSS doesn't mean that the support is any better than closed > support. The two gentlemen who seem to be the most vocally against > 'binary blob drivers' have no record that I can find in this list's > archives of ever providing anyone with actual fixes for drivers. Nor > do I see any other actual patterns of some massive influx of OSS > driver support on this list (or any other, for that matter). Claiming > that "the community" can help is little more than talk, as I've rarely > seen any evidence that more than a very small number of people are > able to actually fix bugs in any one driver anywhere. Hmm, of course, that's why there's not been any updates to X org over the life span of Fedora. I'm being sarcastic... There have been updates, and there's been so because it's *possible*. Whether it's drivers, or other softare, the issue is that its possible when necessary, versus impossible. We don't have 3D open-source drivers because of the obstinacy of manufacturers, no other reason. -- [tim@bigblack ~]$ uname -ipr 2.6.22.1-27.fc7 i686 i386 Using FC 4, 5, 6 & 7, plus CentOS 5. Today, it's FC7. Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.