question about: Desktop Effects and no border

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As long as it's come up, anybody know a way to get just a window (or
two) with no border and no top bar?  I'd really like dali clock to run
that way.

Every time I try the new desktops or the new ati dirver something
breaks, and the effects don't seem to add much to the desktop except a
little glitz, for which I'm too old.

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