Could there be a correlation between the amount of memory you have and the freezes? I don't have FC7, but on a FC6 "pristine" installation my 4GB RAM Dell machine froze very often until I took 1GB out. I don't believe the specific RAM chips were at fault, but anything else could (including the amount of RAM and/or something in the motherboard). Do you see the same freezes with just 2 or 3GB RAM? Emanuel ---- Emanuel Machado, PhD. Senior Engineer, Project Leader Cytonome, Inc. 27 Drydock Ave Boston, MA 02210 Voice: (617) 330-5030 ext. 237 Fax: (617) 330-5031 Website: www.cytonome.com Email: Emanuel-Machado@xxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: Karl Larsen [mailto:k5di@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 11:31 AM To: For users of Fedora Subject: Re: Fedora 7 freezes two or three times per day Dawning Sky wrote: > On 7/24/07, Karl Larsen <k5di@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Dawning Sky wrote: >> > On 7/23/07, Rogue <roguexz@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dawning Sky wrote: >> >> > On 6/21/07, William Case <billlinux@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > I'm experiencing this freeze too. I've disabled irqbalance, put >> >> > "noirqbalance" in the kernel parameters, removed compiz. But my F7 >> >> > system still freezes a few times a day. >> >> > >> >> > It appears related to the desktop environment. I can leave it there >> >> > for weeks, with server processes running. But if I sit there and >> >> > using the desktop environment, it then freezes frequently. >> Nothing in >> >> > the log files. >> >> > >> >> > I'm running F7 x86_64, with AMD X2 and the latest nVidia driver. >> I've >> >> > run memtest for hours without errors. The kernel version is >> >> > 2.6.21-1.3228.fc7. >> >> > >> >> > DS >> >> > >> >> >> >> Same here. I have these random freezes on my laptop and since I do not >> >> have another m/c to access it, I am completely hosed :-( >> >> >> >> The mouse & keyboard do not respond. I wanted to use compiz but >> then the >> >> system would freeze more often. >> >> >> >> I believe the problem is strongly related to the graphics driver. I >> have >> >> a ATI M300 => radeon300 driver. >> >> >> >> During the recent freezes, the only application that could have caused >> >> an issue was Thunderbird's notification mechanism (which brings up a >> >> popup) >> >> >> >> This behavior is definitely not acceptable. But what frustrates me the >> >> most is the absence of any logs!!!! (Arghhh!!) Any hope of logging >> a bug >> >> so that developers could fix the issue is lost. >> >> >> >> Does any one know how I could capture these error messages? What >> are the >> >> parameters to generate logs for the graphics drivers? >> >> >> >> thanks, >> >> Rogue >> > >> > I updated to the latest 2.6.22 kernel and my machine still freezes on >> > me. So now I'm using the "nv" driver. I'll see if it still freezes. >> > >> > DS >> > >> I am interested in how your F7 freezes. I had a freeze >> yesterday. What >> happened I think was all the fast RAM got used and it was using the Swap >> partition. I watched my hard drive light and it was on solid. I did >> Ctrl-Alt F1 and in about 3 minutes it dropped to a prompt. But I was >> unable to log in it so slow. >> >> Does this sound like yours? >> >> >> -- >> >> Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI >> Linux User >> #450462 http://counter.li.org. >> > No. Not at all. I have 4GB of RAM. And my freeze can only be brought > out of by a hard reset. > > DS > Well mine also requires a hard reset to get back to normal. Your 4 GB of RAM does make it harder to use up but it does happen. While your computer is frozen look at your hard drive use. -- Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI Linux User #450462 http://counter.li.org.