On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 08:19 -0600, Karl Larsen wrote: > So I want the thing changed to what is in FC6 which is root uucp and > I know how to use that :-) Unless you've changed your FC6, /dev/dsp is not owned by root:uucp. Defaults, before a user logs in: crw------- 1 root root 14, 3 Jul 19 14:48 /dev/dsp Changes, after a user logs in: crw------- 1 tim root 14, 3 Jul 19 14:48 /dev/dsp -- [tim@bigblack ~]$ rm -rfd /*^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Huname -ipr 2.6.21-1.3228.fc7 i686 i386 Using FC 4, 5, 6 & 7, plus CentOS 5. Today, it's FC7. Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.