On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 14:02 -0600, Karl Larsen wrote: > Mike Chambers wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 13:17 -0600, Karl Larsen wrote: > > > >> I have just learned a week or two ago that you can get a 64 bit > >> kernel and load a 64 bit Fedora 7. I recall seeing the .iso and wondered > >> what it was. Now I know it exists and causes no end of trouble! All the > >> fixes and new applications come out 32 bit. They are all RPM files with > >> i386 in the name. > >> > >> My question is why would anyone want to have an odd ball F7 with > >> 64bit logic? It makes no sense to me. > >> > > > > Cause your looking into the i386 dir, and not the x86_64 dir, which is > > where the rpms are for 64bit systems. Here is part of the dir path to > > 64bit from the main fedora download site.. > > > > /pub/fedora/linux/releases/7/Everything/x86_64/os/Fedora > > > > Above by using ftp to get to it. > > > > So not sure what your asking or I am looking at the question from a > > different angle? > > > > > I think you answered my question. I am able to yum things for my 32 > bit Linux and all the updates they send out are for 32 bit machines. If > I were to go 64 bit I need to FTP the RPM files and and install them > myself. Very, very wrong, Karl. If you install 64-bit F7, all yum updates will be for the 64-bit system unless only a 32-bit package is available--in which case yum will update the 32-bit package where necessary since the 32-bit RPMs will be placed in the 64-bit repos (the repo maintainers are pretty good about that). That's what yum's "$basearch" macro is for--selecting your baseline architecture. If you install a mixed 64- and 32-bit system (e.g. "install everything"), yum will update for both (you'll see ".i386.rpm" stuff go by in the updater window as well as ".x86_64.rpm"). > I will stay with 32 bit until it is no longer the most popular. 99% of all the stuff you want is available for 64-bit. If it isn't, then download the source RPM or tarball and build it for 64-bit. If you don't want to do that (or the source isn't available, such as 32-bit, 3rd party stuff such as Flash or Opera), then the 32-bit stuff will run happily on a 64-bit system. For example, I do virtually everything on 64-bit. When I want to watch Flash, I fire up the 32-bit Opera, which talks to the 32-bit Flash plugin and voila! I really only use Opera for that sort of thing... otherwise I use Firefox 64-bit for virtually all other web browsing. Saying "I will stay with 32 bit until it is no longer the most popular" is also a bit weird. The only thing that's still popular and primarily 32-bit is Windows. Mac OS/X is for Intel is even 64-bit. If you want performance, go 64-bit. And you'll never even notice when the very, VERY few 32-bit only stuff runs on the machine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Principal Engineer rstevens@xxxxxxxxxxxx - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - If this is the first day of the rest of my life... - - I'm in BIG trouble! - ----------------------------------------------------------------------
