Re: Can Linux beat XP in homes yet or NOT?

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Kelly wrote:
You shouldn't just copy Microsoft's press releases, you know.

On Friday, July 13, 2007 12:34 pm Tomas Larsson wrote:
No, currently Linux will never beat Windows.

Financially the chances that Linux beating Windows is low. It does matter what is installed on computers for an OS when it was purchased. Most people stick with what was sold to them. Functionally Windows has less ability than Windows in a lot of aspects. I often try to do things when on windows and realize that it does not work for windows machines. (Changing runlevels, configuring the system and realizing what you are configuring.)

It's to complicated, an average home or office user will never get it to
work.

As my observation above, things are easier with Linux to realize what you are doing. I often have troubles figuring out how to set things up with Windows. Running through tabs, finding out where the feature was shuffled when moving from say w2k to XP.

So personally I would not recommend anyone, who isn't a geek to use it.

I setup a few systems with Fedora and gave them to people. They had no trouble using the system. It was several months that went by before they even asked me what the root password for installing a printer. The other times they did not require a password since the system was rich with software, games and system software at install time. The user just needs to have it installed and they will be able to use it easily.


I have tried my self a couple of times to install and run Linux on desktop,
allways ended up with a no-go.

Possible to not be able to handle having software vs. having a stripped down OS with not much to show. I usually install Openoffice and a version of Seamonkey just to have something to be able to use.

Everytime I have ended up with bying full non-oem XP licence's instead.
I do run it on my servers though.


I have not bought Windows since w95 first was released. The OEM software that came with the computer is all that was later used by myself. I figure that the vendor of the computer struggled to get Windows working so that is the best the computer could do with any other version of their software License .

XP I can get up and running regardless of hardware in say 30 min's Linux
takes considerably longer time (days, weeks, months in some cases).

I have installed so many versions of windows on different machines using the non-oem versions of software. (Work related, somebody else forked out the wasted dollars) On many of them, I'd say over half failed for not having the proper video driver, NIC or modem among other hardware. I have even had Windows install software for hardware that did not exist on the computer. My most recent problem was with Windows installing Synaptics drivers for a computer that had no such devices. The result was software using up over 90% of the CPU and making the computer run as XP would run on an XT computer.


XP has basically everything, without hassle, extremly stable (basically
never crashes).

I would say that it detects hardware incorrectly, does not have drivers for a lot of hardware. I had a few windows machines that it thought that a barcode scanner was a mouse. The result was that the computer would dump core and reboot when the barecode was scanned. Before the reboot on error, it would have BSOD'd. Since Wondows changed actions on errors, it rebooted and dumped core on every scan of the barcode. We had to use comdisable to prevent the wrong detection on serial ports. It Crashes, but it now reboots instead of blue screening.

Antivirus software is not an issue really. You probably
need it on linux as well, at least in the near future.

I hate to admit it but I run a few Windows computers without AV. I think that what a user does and what the computer is allowed to do matters more than just the presence of AV software. Either OS needs vulnerability prevention software. I appreciate all of the effort put into making Linux less prone to malware.


If you buy a preloaded PC, you probably have everything you need, for basic
home use.

It depends on Whether you bought it bundled with extra applications or not. I don't think solitaire, IE Explorer and notepad is all a home user needs to get by.

It is cheaper for most people to purchase a valid XP license than spending
hours to get a linux-box to work.

I started using Linux primarily since I bought a copy of RHL 5.2. I can only imaging all the money I saved compared to the money that I would have wasted on all sorts of software. Cheaper, I doubt. Keep that Valid license.

Similar with Office, its cheaper to buy MS Office than spending time to get
Open Officce or whatever thay are called to work.

I have not had any difficulty with Openoffice being able to do whatever is possible using Office except for database items. There is progress in this area now and soon even that problem or difference will not be a factor.


You can easilly fool yourself with the pricetag on any software, but time
is monney, allways.
Regarding MS support, well, those few times I have been forced to use it,
it is very good.

The only time that I had to use it for XP authentication. Some numbers were already distributed though the sticker reads the number that was said to be used too many times. I hate to read off long numbers to people who barely speak the same language that I am accustomed to.


Personally, however I don't like MS-Office especially MS-Word, I love
WordPerfect, but last time I tested it it was extremly buggy, anyone that
knows how it is today, with the latest version?

The last version of WordPerfect that I used was the demo which came with RHL 5.2 that I purchased. The reason that I heard WP failed to work in a lot of situations was due to information regarding the OS specifics was not transmitted to WP properly or Windows changed things enough with system items to make WP work poorly. It is of course only what was rumored.

Jim

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