Okay, I'm still banging my head against this problem with my daughters MP3 player. In syslog I get this: Jul 10 11:27:30 sulla kernel: usb 4-6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 19 Jul 10 11:27:30 sulla kernel: usb 4-6: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Jul 10 11:27:30 sulla kernel: scsi17 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Jul 10 11:27:35 sulla kernel: scsi 17:0:0:0: Direct-Access SanDisk Sansa m240 1.30 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 Jul 10 11:27:35 sulla kernel: SCSI device sdc: 1993920 512-byte hdwr sectors (1021 MB) Jul 10 11:27:35 sulla kernel: sdc: Write Protect is off Jul 10 11:27:35 sulla kernel: sdc: assuming drive cache: write through Jul 10 11:27:35 sulla kernel: SCSI device sdc: 1993920 512-byte hdwr sectors (1021 MB) Jul 10 11:27:35 sulla kernel: sdc: Write Protect is off Jul 10 11:27:35 sulla kernel: sdc: assuming drive cache: write through Jul 10 11:27:35 sulla kernel: sdc: sdc1 Jul 10 11:27:35 sulla kernel: sd 17:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sdc Jul 10 11:27:35 sulla kernel: sd 17:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg4 type 0 Yet when I try to mount sdc1 I get 'special device does not exist'. Any ideas? -- Recedite, plebes! Gero rem imperialem! Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 Call (866) ERC-7110 for after hours support