On Saturday 30 June 2007, Todd Zullinger wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> Like many who run Epson printers simply because the output color >> quality is worth it, I find I am stuck in a catch 22. I cannot >> update my gimp install with your new packages. >> >> Why? >> >> The new gimp packaging is apparently hard coded in its dependencies >> to absolutely depend on gimp-print-4.2.7-23 and its plugin of the >> same version number. >> >> I installed, using checkinstall, gutenprint-5.1.0 which includes >> this renamed plugin, back in February as it fixed many long standing >> bugs such as the bottom of the page color fades, and now allows >> flawless borderless printing too. I am not about to screw up my >> printing ability by allowing a working very well installation to be >> over-written with broken code by false dependencies such as this. >> >> gimp-print has essentially been frozen in time at version 4.2.7 for >> at least 2 years, maybe longer, and any support is totally up to the >> individual distro, so I fail to see any logic or reasoning behind >> the redhat/fedora reticence in adopting gutenprint in its place. It >> simply doesn't grok here. >> >> Short of downloading the new gimp and installing it --nodeps >> --force, all by hand, which will work for me I'm sure, or building >> it from the tarball which I've also been known to do when fedora >> ignores known problems for months at a time, how do I convince TPTB >> that gimp-print is a deadend that should be deprecated and >> gutenprint used to replace it? > >There is a flag in the source rpm to control whether the package is >built with gimp-print or gutenprint. That might be the simpler way >that building it all manually. Or maybe not. :) > >It's surely not that the packagers aren't aware of both options, so >there are likely reasons why the package now requires >gimp-print-plugin. They may not be reasons you agree with though. If >you feel the dependency is in error, the way to bring that to the >packagers attention is to file a bug in your friend the bugzilla. >That should at least help answer the question of why the dep is there >and perhaps you can persuade the packager that it should not be. > >I think some of the problem arises from the fact that in FC6, >gutenprint was in Extras and not in Core. That means that the core >package gimp can't require gutenprint. There is some discussion of >this in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/243593. It looks as if the >changes made for the F7 gimp package have been applied to the FC6 >package as well. Perhaps they shouldn't be. You may be able to point >this out in that bug and see if the gimp maintainer will reconsider >that change. Thanks for the bz link Todd, I've added my comments. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) There's no future in time travel.