on 6/22/2007 3:50 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 12:28 -0700, David Boles wrote: >> on 6/22/2007 6:09 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: >>> On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 20:46 -0700, David Boles wrote: >>>> on 6/21/2007 7:23 PM, Tim wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 12:59 -0600, Karl Larsen wrote: >>>>>> If you have either F7 or F6 with all the updates you will have a >>>>>> Volume Control that is broken. When you click it up if your in the Alsa >>>>>> mixer mode you on the right side a Microphone listed on the Playback >>>>>> tab. This is wrong and if you look at the device below the Mike it shows >>>>>> a speaker! >>>>>> >>>>>> To use this bad system first turn up the Master and Master Mono to >>>>>> the top and set Mike to the top. Now click File and select the TriTech >>>>>> OSS Mixer. >>>>> Firstly, that "TriTech" bit only refers to your hardware. People with >>>>> different sound hardware will see something different. >>>>> >>>>> Second, make a damn bugzilla report. We've all heard the same story >>>>> from you several times, this week. We know about it by now, you're not >>>>> doing anything constructive about it. >>>> Karl - Please read this and listen. I am not writing this to be mean or >>>> insulting in any way. >>>> >>>> I have had FC-3, FC-4, FC-5, FC6, and FC-7 all installed one after the >>>> other. At the same time I have always had rawhide (the development branch >>>> of Fedora) installed too. And my mixers/volume controls have all worked >>>> just fine. >>>> >>>> So I really think that your problems are either your hardware or Pebkac. >>>> Really. And if I had to bet I would bet on Pebkac. >>> No, in this case (at least), Karl is really onto something. After some >>> update, my F7 GNOME volume control show only one tab, "Playback", and >>> Mic shows up there instead of on the "Capture" tab where it used to. >>> And I can't set the +20db boost for the mic or select which mic is live, >>> either. >>> >>> Running alsamixer from the command line shows all three display options >>> ("tbas") "Playback", "Capture", and "All", but all the mic controls >>> appear on the playback tab--the "Capture" tab shows only a "Capture" >>> device. The Line device is labeled a Capture device, but its level only >>> shows in the Playback tab. >>> >>> Consequently, I don't seem to be able to get the Skype test call to play >>> back my test message at all. I had it working in FC6 with some >>> settings, but I can't duplicate them in the GNOME volume control and >>> they don't seem to "take" in alsamixer. >>> >>> (FWIW, my ALSA mixer is for an Intel 82801DB-ICH4 and my OSS mixer is >>> for an Analog Devices AD1981B. >>> >>> I had none of these issues with FC6. >>> >>> Karl, have you filed the damned bug yet? >> What you guys are talking about has absolutely nothing to do with the >> package named Gnome-Volume-Control. >> >> >From the file description: >> >> Summary : The GNOME Volume Manager >> Description : >> The GNOME Volume Manager monitors volume-related events and responds with >> user-specified policy. The GNOME Volume Manager can automount hot-plugged >> drives, automount inserted removable media, autorun programs,automatically >> play audio CDs and video DVDs, and automatically import photos from a >> digital camera. The GNOME Volume Manager does this entirely in user-space >> and without polling. >> >> Honest to $diety kids. GNOME Volume Manager does not have a darn thing to >> do with any of this. > > I know that. It's still a bug, and your claim that Karl is > hallucinating is still incorrect. And gnome-volume-manager is obviously > not gnome-volume-control (though Karl still seems confused on that > point). There is no package called gnome-volume-control, but there is a > program called gnome-volume-control and it's in the package gnome-media. > And nothing in my message or the message I replied to made any reference > whatsoever to gnome-volume-manager. You are correct sir in all that you say. And as I have tried to explain to Karl I don't have the problem that you two have. Never have had it. Works today. I am checking and un-checking and moving the sliders as I type this, well when I stop typing this, and the music that is playing starts and stops and the volume rises and falls as I do. The last real problem I have had with Linux was getting a 'Zip Drive' to work. And that was a long, long time ago. Probably seven or eight years ago. Maybe I'm just lucky? Or don't have any strange hardware? -- David
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