Ahhh, for the old simple days. :) I have Fedora Rawhide on my laptop, because it suspends and resumes that way, and because I don't mind a certain degree of pain. For whatever reason, NetworkManager crashes shortly after it starts about 90% of the time. I'm not a huge NetworkManager fan, because it doesn't quite offer the level of control that I like. And I'm not so keen on its design philosophy of "be really slick whenever it's doing the right thing / be really opaque in all other cases". So, between those things, I decided to install some of the alternate wifi control tools available in Fedora, and uninstall NetworkManager. Ooops. If I don't have NetworkManager starting at boot, `iwlist eth0 scan` returns "No scan results" every time. But if I instead start NetworkManager at boot, it works fine -- even after it crashes or I stop it. Clearly, NetworkManager is doing some vital configuration of the interface at startup. But what? -- Matthew Miller mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx <http://mattdm.org/> Boston University Linux ------> <http://linux.bu.edu/>
