Ralf Corsepius: >> Please define "low-end", "your home country" and "your target audience" >> and which implications this would have. Globe Trotter: > Low-end <= 128 MB memory. CPU <= 1.4 GHz. The memory requirement's a bit of a problem, 256 megs is a more practical low memory level, but I run slower CPUs than that. >> The question is: Why do you see a need to get around this at all? > Because Gnome and KDE seem to be too much of a bloat: often taking > five minutes to perform an operation, such as post-login. Not here, they don't. Booting up takes mine about 1.5 minutes, and it'd be quicker if I didn't run a few services. It's about 20 seconds more, post bootup, to the graphical system is up and running. Again, that'd be quicker if I hadn't added a few things to the taskbar. 1. 1.5 minutes booting 2. logging in 3. 20 seconds later, I can do what I want in my account > I was referrring to something called as "Minimal (server) install. Being a "server" doesn't require any graphical user interface. Gnome or KDE don't have to be on the system, at all. -- (This box runs FC6, my others run FC4 & FC5, in case that's important to the thread.) Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.