Response interspersed. Stan Klein On Sat, June 2, 2007 5:22 pm, Marko Vojinovic <vvmarko@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Message: 15 > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 21:07:10 +0000 > From: Marko Vojinovic <vvmarko@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Installing F7 by CD and not by DVD > > On Saturday 02 June 2007 17:36, Stanley A. Klein wrote: >> I have a 500 Mhz Pentium machine that runs FC5 very well. I installed >> it >> using the multi-CD set. >> >> I can NOT put a DVD drive on the machine, because the minimum speed for >> DVD drives is around 800 Mhz, based on all the drive boxes I looked at >> when I investigated the matter. > > I don't understand this. Are you saying that you have a DVD drive that > does > not work on machines below 800 MHz? I would consider such drive to be > broken. > My office machine is 750 MHz and the DVD drive on it works just fine. One > of > my home machines is P2 on 333 MHz, and the DVD drive on it also works > perfectly. For data, of course. I do not watch any movies on it. > A year or two ago, my CD drive failed. I went to the local computer store looking for a replacement and decided to consider upgrading to a DVD drive. Every drive I looked at had a minimum hardware requirement of around 800 Mhz. My machine is 500 Mhz, so I bought a CD-only replacement drive. >> The only way I can do an install of F7 equivalent to what I now have >> with >> FC5 is to have a multi-CD equivalent of the DVD. Is there any place I >> can >> download it? I haven't found one. If I have a machine elsewhere that >> can >> read DVD's (and I do) is there a way for me to make the same kind of >> multi-CD set I need from the DVD? > > As others proposed, burn the boot.iso and do the hard-disk installation. > In > order to put the DVD iso image to your hard drive, chop it up in 700MB > pieces, burn them on CDs, copy those on your hard disk, and regenerate the > iso by connecting the pieces. I have never done this, but I guess cat and > dd > would be enough for the chopping/glueing part. Surely someone on this list > can guide you on that step-by-step. I think it would be easier to install to a machine with a DVD drive and then create a multi-CD spin. I hope that doesn't buy me more trouble than it is worth. > >> Or has the Fedora Project, in its wisdom, decided to abandon people like >> me as users? > > Don't think that way. Better focus on your ability to deal with the > situation. > A piece of hardware is not smarter than a human, and should not limit you > in > any way. Maybe make life a bit more complicated, but nothing is > impossible, > as compared to some other OSes. > > I also don't like the way this was done, but believe that someone will do > the > several-cd-spin in a short time, and make it available for download. Too > many > people are complaining, so... :-) One issue is whether the install of a spin allows packages on the spin to be selected after the spin has been created. Looking at the docs, it may be that the selection has to be done a spin-creation time. Of course, there is always the need to get the dependencies installed before attempting to install their dependent packages. > > Besides, someone could be having Internet access only through a Windows > machine, and thus having even more trouble chopping the iso, while being > completely unable to spin one's own version (pungi & co. don't work on > Windows...). But that can also be dealt with (virtual machine running > Fedora > and pungi etc), it is just a matter of effort one puts in it. > > So you are not in a worst position, after all... :-) The worst position is someone who has CD-only, no network install capability, and no access to another machine with a DVD reader. > > Best, :-) > Marko > > Marko Vojinovic > Institute of Physics > University of Belgrade
