Mike McCarty wrote: > Les wrote: >> On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 15:34 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: > > [snip] > >>> Plauger and I exchanged a few e-mails during that period, and >>> he made comments of a similar nature. I got to meet him over >>> on comp.lang.c 'way back. I'm sure he doesn't remember me, though. >> >> I am somewhat jealous of your getting to know Plauger. I did implement > > Don't be. We exchanged perhaps eight e-mails (eight from each of us, > that is). Chalk that up more to his willingness to exchange emails with > people that he doesn't know than anything else. He was very polite and > seemed to listen to my comments. > >> PASCAL from the diagrams in the back of the book, and it took some time >> to do it. I was working on a CPM based system by then, and only had one >> single density hardsectored disk drive from Northstar. It took a while. > > I bet it did. I ran on a single floppy PCDOS machine for quite a while. > I booted and loaded my software into a RAMDISC and then put another > floppy in for data. I needed a copy of COMMAND.COM on both discs, so > when the CI needed to be reloaded, I didn't have to swap floppy discs. > > I implemented my first RTOS using a dual 8" floppy system with an 8085 > uP and 64K total RAM+ROM using CP/M. All written in RMAC. > > [snip] > >> expressive. It was truly inspired. I have used other languages, from >> BASIC to APL (which is probably the most arcane you can get) and even >> Cyber systems, but I prefer the simple elegance and efficiency of C >> whenever possible. > > First machine I programmed was an IBM 1401 using machine language. > Then came an IBM System/360 running APL. Then came a CYBER 6000 using > machine language again. Then a Fairchild F8 with machine language. > >> I also remember the big-endian vs little-endian arguments, and some >> of the consternation that caused. And the arguments about re-entrant >> code, and variable wipes. C never initializes, so there was a huge > > C doesn't initialize what? It initializes all used variables. Not if they're on the stack. You should get a compiler warning nowadays... but don't count on it! #include <stdio.h> int main() { int a; printf("%d\n", a); return 0; } $ gcc -Wall test.c $ ./a.out 6874720 $ ./a.out 9766496 $ gcc --version gcc (GCC) 4.1.2 20070502 (Red Hat 4.1.2-12) -Andy