Re: I love IP Tables....

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jdow wrote:

Now, I can see why, as a programmer, you would not want to be held
liable for damage cause by a mistake in programming. After all, who
has time to get all the bugs out. but there is a BIG difference
between a bug in a program, and a program that is poorly designed in
the first place.

An accidental flaw that is not discovered by anyone until after release is one thing. Continuing to distribute after the flaw is known is something very different.

Now we are into a whole new discussion.

No, this is _the_ discussion. Even if you follow best known practices, some software flaws will always slip past your testing. There's no real world testing quite like the real world.

Should Fedora Core maintain both
the original ISOs and/or a full set of fully updated ISOs for first time
installs?

Personally, I think they should. But I normally install from the k12ltsp distribution which comes a bit later and is rebuilt with current updates plus the ltsp and other add-on packages.

Should Microsoft?

Well obviously... Within a couple of months of XP's release you couldn't download the updates on an internet connection before you'd be hit by a virus. If they hadn't released the SP2 (or wherever they are now) release you wouldn't be able to do a new windows install without heavy firewalling.

In both cases I believe the answer should include fully up to date
patched ISOs and commercial CDROMs.

At least in the case where network exploits are discovered in the base system that would interfere with the ability to perform the updates after an install. However, there should also be a simple facility to obtain these updates for systems that do not have internet access or are isolated for security reasons. I'm not sure if Windows has a mechanism for that or not if you want to stay ahead of the bundled service packs.

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  Les Mikesell
   lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx


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