Thanx to Joe at blag there are working rpms to dnload. This thing is too cool, I can almost figure it out without the docs! I'm already importing .flv files and playing them...ergo I should be able to edit. <evil cackles> I am loosed! youtube will never be the same! ftp://ftp.blagblagblag.org/pub/BLAG/linux/60000/en/os/i386/BLAG/RPMS.extras/ You'll need the kdenlive rpm, and both mlt and mlt++ rpms, just scroll down the ftp list and you'll spot 'em. Use yum or smart to install the files after dnloading them as I needed one more dependency for it to install. I also installed mlt-devel and mlt++devel just for beans. And yes, blag is based on FC6 so the install was nice, clean and hasn't blown up yet. Anne, Claude and Les, this may be THE ONE! Now I am happy as the guy from France. Ever' body be 'appy! <grins hugely> Ric --