This is hilarious. I installed FC6 a couple of weeks ago from cdroms that someone kindly sent me. Yums ok, but I don't get on with yumex, so I installed apt, and synaptic using yum. On FC5 on this machine I'd had problems with xorg, and the r128 driver for the Rage card. This was a bug on xorg 7.0, and I had to use the vesa driver on FC5. Mplayer wouldn't work with this driver on FC5 on this machine. So. I install Mplayer, and Mplayerplug-in from Freshrpms on FC6. Mplayer plays my DVD's fine, so that's one problem fixed. Just for kicks I try Internet radio from http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4, and even though mplayerplug-in is only using version 9 of the realplayer, this works ok. So far so good. Prior to installing mplayer,etc, I'd run an apt-get update, and an apt-get dist-upgrade. There were more than 700MB of updates, and as I'm on dialup I installed Mplayer, etc first, so as to see if the r128 problem had been fixed. Now I go for the updates. I get 9+hours at a time on my dialup connection, so this equates to 5x9hr overnight sessions. 5 days later, with all the updates installed I think that all is ok. Next day I boot up FC6. I want to check out NTP, but also listen to book of the week on radio4. So I start Firefox, go to the bbc's site to listen to book of the week. This had worked ok before the updates, but now I get a message from Totem saying RTSP streams cannot be played yet. Going to about:plugins in Firefox I see 5 plugins (totem ones) have been added, and totem wants to take first place on the plugins list. I have plugins in Firefox to listen to audio streams from the BBC using realplayer, and quite why totem has jumped in first, trying to play a stream that it can't play is anybodies guess. The fix was simple, but the heavy handed approach. Go to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, and rename the darned things adding a .bak to 5x.so's, and 5x.xpt's. In a way it was quite funny, but why totem should grab first place when it detects some sort of stream in the URL, and when it doesn't have a hope in hell of playing it, I don't know. The same goes for kaboodle, which IIRC when I've clicked on a file in a webbrowser, has never been able to play anything. All makes life interesting I suppose. At least I could listen to book of the week, using the listen again option on the BBC's radioplayer. Nigel.