Bloatware is bad. The idea is to be minimal, then install what you want.
Having apps available is good, yes, but installed by default? That's
just resource and space-wasting.
I have a great spec laptop (Core 2 Duo 1.66GHz, 2Gb RAM, 160Gb HDD with
128mb Graphics), I keep everything minimal with ArchLinux. At a push my
resources are 0-1% CPU usage and *absolute* tops 12% RAM useage. Why
bloat up a system when you can install a minimal distro, then install
only what you need? It's rather newie'ish just installing bloatware.
Cheers,
~ Tom
jim tate wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote:
jim tate wrote:
Mike wrote:
On Sat, 21 Apr 2007, jim tate wrote:
I have done a install of Kubuntu just to see how it work, I'm a
straight Fedora user and no desire to move to Ubuntu,
I just want to see how it works as far as SU goes.
In ubuntu , can any user type in sudo -s and get root privileges ?
For Security reasons this distro scares me.
I teach Linux at locale libraries and wanted to get a feel for
ubuntu before I can say yea or nay.
And I don't want to go threw a bunch of hassles to track down a
Ubuntu forum just to ask one question about a distro
that I'm not going to permanently use.
Thanks
Jim
I believe sudo -s and sudo -i is limited to users in the admin
group. Look at the file /etc/sudoers on your Ubuntu box. Also if I
recall correctly users can be added and removed from groups using
the gpasswd command.
But can any user perform those steps ?
If so this unsafe allowing users to install anything they want.
This is one of the main resones that Windows crashes so much, kids
being able to install anything.
The ability to sudo is, of course, restricted by the same config
files as it would be in every other distribution. Ubuntu just uses a
convention of setting up the first user added as an admin user with
the ability to run anything via sudo with only his own password so it
isn't necessary to run as root. If you don't like it, you'll probably
sudo su - root
anyway...
Well from what you guys have said, I guess I will sleep easy at night
knowing that Ubuntu has not really killed the security in Linux.
I have to admit this Ubuntu-7 is a easy install , but I still feel
more secure with Fedora.
Thing that blew my mind was Firefox is not a default install. But it
was easy to install.
Many people complain that Fedora is bloatware, I can say extra apps
are better than not enough Apps, if your a new user how long would it
take to realize that the Konqueror is not as good as Firefox, if
Firefox wasn't installed
From what I can see is that a new user in Ubuntu is going to have to
spend more time on forums and asking
question about Apps he does not know about, because their not
installed (bloatware)
Thanks guys for your help.
Jim
Jim
