I just learned that Fedora stripped some functionality from OOo. That really sucks because the functionality they stripped I needed on one of my projects. That caused the project to take much longer than it should have. I know about the mp3 stuff. What other software has stripped functionality? Is there a list of the software Fedora has stripped down? I think the need to learn how to roll my own is getting much greater to the point I am going to force myself to learn the hard stuff. I have procrastinated on a lot of things but not any more. -- If the word following begins with a vowel, the word you want is... to read the rest of this, go here http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/a.html