Les Mikesell wrote:
> Todd Zullinger wrote:
>>Setting up sendmail to receive mail from the internet isn't meant
>>for normal human beings.
>
> You mean unlike trivial things like building a working kernel, or
> configuring ssh securely, or getting cups to print, or installing a
> DNS server?
No. I simply meant not for normal human beings because normal human
beings don't read any documentation nor do they have any competency to
configure network facing daemons on their systems.
> Those other things I mentioned are also trivial for the few dozen
> people that do them all the time. The rest of us don't have to deal
> with it because it works as distributed.
Just because there are easier ways to enable other services doesn't
mean that sendmail as shipped is broken. Sendmail is something of a
pain to configure because upstream sendmail is hard to configure.
If it were my choice, I'd prefer to see a much smaller and simpler MTA
shipped as default that would handle the meager needs of most Fedora
systems. That might also allow a sendmail package to be made which
accepted network connections by default.
> That wouldn't be necessary if the distribution supplied a way to
> activate a working configuration as it does for other services.
File a bug[1]. Create a GUI config tool. Submit doc patches. There
are many ways that you could constructively help the situation. I
don't think I really disagree with you that much about this. What
gets me is that you repeatedly say Fedora ships a broken sendmail when
that is simply untrue. You just don't like the way it is configured
by Fedora. So do something about it.
[1] if there isn't one already filed. If there is, send it along so
others that agree can chime in and work on a solution.
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