On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:41:01 -0600 "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <mikkel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: What does ls -l /dev/scanner-usbdev5.5 show? lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Feb 28 14:56 /dev/scanner-usbdev5.5 -> bus/usb/005/005 ll /dev/bus/usb/005/ shows me this: total 0 crw-r--r-- 1 root root 189, 512 Feb 28 12:56 001 crw------- 1 matthew root 189, 516 Feb 28 17:25 005 I'm waiting for "matthew" to log out so I can see what happens to that permission then. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com