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From: Aaron Konstam <akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: More on bittorrent
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:35:22 -0600

On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 13:24 -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
> On 2/26/07, Aaron Konstam <akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 10:30 -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
> > > On 2/26/07, Aaron Konstam <akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > > > >> I wanted to download the latest FC6 respin CDs. I went to the web
> > > > >> location and found the correct bittorrent and clicked to download it.
> > > > >> The bittorrent GUI opened and the download started. Now I was
> > > > connected
> > > > >> to a system with an Internet speed of 45 Mb/s but the GUI said the
> > > > >> download would take 15 hours. Well the respin has 5 CDs. I have a
> > > > >> downloaded a single 600+ Meg CD in less than an hour (actually I
> > > > think
> > > > >> it was much less). So I can't understand why the bittorrent download
> > > > >> should take 15 hours.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I have done this before but it has been a long time ago. I must be
> > > > doing
> > > > >> something wrong but what? Any ideas?
> > > > >
> > > > >A couple of things to check - do you have a download speed limit
> > > > >set, so that it does not use the full bandwidth when downloading? Do
> > > > >you have your firewall properly configured so that you can seed as
> > > > >well as download? If not, this can limit your download speed. How
> > > > >many seeds are there, compared to the number of clients, and how
> > > > >many are you connected to?
> > > > My download speed was set too high. I have no firewall set on my machine
> > > > but the university does however they tell me that they do not restrict
> > > > bittorrents. I don't know how to check the number of seeds and /or
> > > > number of clients.
> > > >
> > > > So there are clearly holes in my knowledge. Can someone help fill in the
> > > > gaps.
> > > > >
> > > > >One other thing to keep in mind is that the time estimate when you
> > > > >first start downloading is usually high, and drops as you connect to
> > > > >more feeds. It also tends to change during the download. Depending
> > > > >on how the client calculates the time remaining, it may get less
> > > > >sensitive to rate changes as the download progresses - more data to
> > > > >average, so temporary fluctuations in download speed do not affect
> > > > >it as much.
> > > > The above is true but I waited 2 hours and not even 1 CD was downloaded.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Bittorrent works when there are a large number of seeders and peers.
> > > The problem with the Fedora respin is that after the initial
> > > availability announcement the number of seeders and peers drops to a
> > > very low number, less than 5 when I tried it. If each shares the
> > > minimum required upload speed, 4K bits/second, the total bandwidth is
> > > only 20K bits/second. Factor the low number of participants and the
> > > problem of finding peers with the fragments missing from your download
> > > and you get the current situation. Also I find that the tracker used
> > > by Fedora respin does not work well with my setup which is behind a
> > > firewall.
> > >
> > So am I conclude that >10 hours may be what it will take. How do you
> > find out how many seeders are active?
> > --
> 
> Use Azureus. It shows the number of seeders and peers connected to your swarm.
That is ok if I can figure out how. How do you get azureus to download a
bittorrent at a web site?
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