On 16/02/07, Ian Malone <ibmalone@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 14/02/07, Robin Laing <Robin.Laing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On this point I add that I hate both formats because of the lossy >> nature. I rip CD's to flac and then convert as required for my mp3 >> player which does support ogg. >> >> My wife cannot notice the difference, even with good headphones on and I >> cringe at most mp3 music. My biggest problem is "Stairway to Heaven" I >> have yet to get a good ogg or mp3 version of this song. Same with many >> live recordings. >> > > Yes, Stairway and the Battle of Evermore I had to rerip at 320 bps to > get rid of an echo in both songs. The rest of my collection is 256, > with a few exceptions. I don't really like live recordings, so I > haven't tried those. > The versions from Symbols? Do you remember what time/part it was at?
There are other versions? I've only got the 320 on hand right now, but I can rerip the disc at 128/256 if you want. Listening to Stairway at 320, I think that I remember the echo at about 7:20 or so in the cymbals.
> If you're already ripping to flac, are you listening to them as flac? > I know that mplayer will play flacs. > I'd guess he's using mp3 for a hardware player. While a few will play FLAC it's quite space hungry.
I meant on the desktop. I'd actually like to note that my music collection is in mp3 as I feel it's slightly better sounding than ogg. I don't remember what turned me off about ogg, but I decided not to use it. I only mention it because someone mentioned earlier in the thread that ogg sounds better. My music tastes usually include heavy guitar and drums, with not a small bit of electronic peices: Led Zepplin, Machina (Israeli rock), Pantera, Sepultura, Nine Inch Nails, Rammstien, Ministry. Appears that guitar doesn't compress so well in ogg. That was about 2002-ish, while Windows was still installed on this machine. Might I see better results ripping ogg with a newer Linux program? Also, hardware support for ogg is almost non-existant. My first portable mp3 player (SA-1 series) wouldn't play ogg, and neither does my current (Nokia 6280, playing double duty as a telephone). So I'd still have to keep the mp3's around. If I rerip as flac, is there a tool that will convert to mp3 on the fly when I copy to the Nokia's SD card (which I do very often)? Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/xss.html http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/lyrics/78/238/guns_n_roses/use_your_illusion_1.html